Are you even aware theres a strong suspicion that evidence of the hair, which was DNA matched to her, was tampered with? Patricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. Curiously after this latest test, the 39 hairs removed only 34 were accounted for what became of the absent 4 hairs? Theres a similar air of confusion connected to the Scott Peterson debacle. Ive heard she gets to go out to LUNCH and this broad is in prison for murdering her husband Russ Stager? WATCH: ID Examines 1994 Lehigh Valley Double-Murder - People She didnt need to have owned all the guns she ever used, nor to have owned the gun she in fact used. They also found a photo of Patricia taken 11 days before the homicide. DNA testing revealed the blood came from either Joann or her son. He gave an audio interview to the Wrong Man investigators when they made a surprise visit to his house, but he declined to appear on camera. Traupman died in 2016. Chris and Fatima investigate the case of Patricia Rorrer, who is in prison for brutally murdering her former boyfriend's wife and baby out of spite; her lawyers claim that she was . She is right where she belongs for now until she meets satan in the fury of hell. you dont want to fall off and hurt your oversized ego. Theres speculation and theres lies period. Meanwhile, interest in Patricias plight continues on social media. Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? Patricias phone bill showed no record of a call to Catasauqua that day, but police noticed she didnt make any calls at all from her house in North Carolina that day either suggesting she could have been out of state and used a pay phone to dial up the Katrinaks. If I knew I was going to get caught, I never would have brought you into this world, the arresting officers testified they heard her say to Nicole. The Free Patricia Rorrer page points to a sliver of a fingernail found at the murder site that didnt come from either Patricia or Joann. That said, Im curious to know how you arrived at that decision about her guilt. Then 31 years old, she had lived a rocky existence. Theres also the matter of a woman who suddenly remembered she saw Joann with another man at a Food Mart store five days after the disappearance. Perhaps she used more than one gun using another/others for the target shooting than the one she killed with (and others shot with her?) September 2020 - Forensic Files Now One of the hairs had magically developed root material to enable that. But thats just some of the ammo on Team Patricias battleship. Having watched and read all that has been available, I feel very strongly, that a grave error has been perpetrated by the law authorities. Unfortunately, most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense, and theyre only more unlikely to do so, given todays social media. Or the ME and the entomologist that explained how impossible it would be for that baby and mother to be out there for four months, deceased at that, and still be as intact as they were, and the fact that the baby was double the size of a three month old child. You started slinging insults, then got insulted when slung back. Her non-serious but potentially fatal (proximity to artery) injury could have been a half-hearted suicide attempt if not intentional other-incriminating. And your attempt to draw a distinction between a fact and an opinion! She killed a mother and child and now has all of you eating out of the palm of her hand about how mistreated she has been. Andrew told investigators that the unpleasant phone call between Joann and Patricia happened just three days before his wifes disappearance. She killed Joann, had a fair and impartial trial, so its time to get over it. Police believe Rorrer abducted and killed her ex-boyfriend's wife and infant son in Pennsylvania. Rorrers defenders remind me of a case in my home town There was a killer who confessed, was caught on video committing the murder and was seen committing the crime by an eye witness. And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded.. Lehigh Valley: Patricia Rorrer Still A Convenient Suspect? They really need to set her free and open the case and look at the husband. Catherine are you sure your names not Karen? But let me say in my defence, I have not attacked anyone on this particular site with outright rudeness, to which you allude, albeit some of them deserved a retort of some substance. There are judges, eminent lawyers and writers who are in support of her. Killers can plan all the details and alibis well ahead of the murder while cops must come up with hard evidence, even just to make an arrest. Ive followed and made a study of this case for more than twenty years and have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. Someone had shot Joann in the face with a .22-caliber pistol, then beaten her about the head hitting her 19 times in all with a blunt object. Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports is also available on YouTube, but it costs $1.99 to view (Keith comes off as an advocate for Patricias innocence on the episode). On a secret recording, Patricia asked Jarrett to vouch for her attendance or she might go to the electric char. At 6 a.m. on June 24, 1997, police arrested Patricia at her modest house in Linwood, North Carolina, and took her back to Pennsylvania. I hope she rots in hell. More likely it reflects a relative reluctance to execute females as well as the pendency of what will be the last episode of DNA investigation. I have all her moms and her jewelry that was given to me when my mom passed away. Walmart woe. Watching this case on tv again today, I returned to this site and noted: I most definitely will not personally afford Patricia a platform, Michael said in an email to ForensicFilesNow.com She had her chance to answer my questions and tell her story in court over 20 years ago. Advocates for her innocence complain of hype surrounding the case. February 8, 2020. Rorrer killed two peoplea young mother and her small child and thru the justice system got what the bitch deserved! I have not SEEN this report that says no root found is there a picture of it online somewhere? I certainly dont consider its more likely the victims husbands the perp than Rorrer, as has been suggested, leaving Rorrer or a stranger. I agree that the putative motive is relatively weak (though motive is ultimately subjective and theres no accounting for anger, bitterness, jealousy etc) and to convict on that substantially would be absurd. Its an opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. Its sad that some people just cant move on and continue to feel that what they want is going to be THEIRS regardless. And the fact that Patricia called Andrew even after he married someone else didnt mean she was still carrying a torch for him, according to one of her friends. If Rorrer is innocent, she is a victim of a terrible miscarriage (terrible relatively because she is regarded as a child-killer and has been incarcerated for a many years) which I hope is corrected as soon as possible. Patricia Rorrer was wrongfully convicted of Murder. Keep her murdering ass locked up!!! She didnt kill those two boys and TX knows, but they made too much noise about it, hence this is probably the real reason that Darlie hasnt been put to death 24-25 yrs later. And she will have to answer eventually. Yes, documentaries probably do misrepresent evidence, and many may respond to that misrepresentation, but beneath that is jury judgment, and while courts can be wrong they are usually right. From my point of view this is an extremely similar case, with less class and style, and without the luxurious details that Interpols case had, such as the involvement of an extremely expensive Alfa Romeo car, and a revolver bought at a lush auction in Paris, which had belonged to a duke before the incident. After researching this case more thoroughly, I stand corrected about the time it took the jury to return a verdict. The premiere episode will air following the series finale of Power. Especially mice! She wanted all men to give her attention but she couldnt have everyones attention, especially ANDREWS!!! If that really is the case, the husbands alibi for a date months before becomes irrelevant. Andrew had an ex-girlfriend, Patricia Rorrer, who'd been familiar with the trail, and she'd previously managed a horse stable just a mile from the scene. One of Patricia's alibis was that she was at a bar on the night of the abduction. Patricias professional life included short-lived gigs as a Century 21 real estate agent and an Oldsmobile salesperson. Early in the investigation, the hairs found in the car were sent (in glass slides) to several laboratories including the FBIs. Phone records confirmed Patricia placed the earlier call from North Carolina, not Pennsylvania. They were able to match 5 hairs all the same micro DNA which happened to match the DNA pulled from blood samples Pat gave. They would have no reason to protect Andrew and lie on her. To be sure, an appellant does not have to *prove* (convince) of innocence to have been wrongfully convicted (even if they are in fact guilty but I digress). Not sure why anyone is defending her. While not a guilt sceptic, I suggest this was either ill-conceived expression or an expression of misguided mindset for its not for the defendant (albeit now convict) to convince of innocence but for prosecution to convince of guilt (and per appeal, that guilt is safe rather than innocence unproven). The state police dropped him as a suspect. When she stood trial that same year, she maintained her innocence and alleged that she and Andrew Katrinak had continued to stay in touch as good friends, so she wouldn't do anything to hurt him. After relocating to Pennsylvania, Patricia met the 6-foot-2-inch Andrew in a restaurant. I hope she suffers and goes insane from loneliness. An infant was lying face down on her stomach. My husband passed away of a broken heart, Sarah OConnor said on the Montel Williams Show in 2001. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. Despite the new evidence and hypotheses, the courts have rejected all of Patricias bids for a new trial. He said she did own a firearm, with its serial numbers filed off. Did he go on to have any other children is later relationship(s), do we know? Plus a FB group that I was in included some people who grew up with her and they confirmed that she was indeed a horrible mean person who was easily enraged and always looking for a fight. I also communicated with Patricia via email to get her input on some matters. . Your position Ive read a lot, Im right; you disagree with me, Ill say youre a moron. I cant lose them, he told the media. And while youre on that list, you can be happy in the knowledge youre not in rarefied company. Later, they both worked 12-hour graveyard shifts at a textile factory. Clearly, there are a lot of irrational people out there. A man normally wouldnt care about killing a child, but a woman normally would have some kind of abhorrence to harming an innocent child. Why is this even a question, why people are trying to take out killers into society? As for the murder weapon, police didnt find a .22 caliber pistol on Patricias property, but an ex-boyfriend claimed that she owned one and it would always jam after one shot. Its patently clear you are another of those who knows too little about this case. But I suppose you havent a clue about that. Beautifully said Cliff! In April 1995, the family buried Joann and Alex in a single bronze casket after a funeral mass at a Bethlehem church. No show. What time will shops open on Sunday 27th Dec 2020 Patricia defaulted on her mortgage and then returned to North Carolina, where she eventually moved in with a boyfriend named Brian Ward. They noted houses near the murder scene would have heard a gunshot in December, when no farm equipment is making noise, and question why the murderer didnt just kill Joann inside her house instead of risking being seen in public in her car. Unless theres a complicity between him and her, and the reason she didnt divulge it is because she hopes to put all the blame on him, when she was the one to murder and he was a planner. There is no justice for your loved ones when the wrong person is paying for the crime. On December 14, 2020, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court denied Ms. Rorrer's petition for allowance of appeal, concluding her state appellate proceedings. Thank you Kerry. Thats all for this post. Episode Info. I would suggest you take the time to read the book or, at least watch the documentaries which STICK TO THE FACTS, and then comment. Its nothing short of a feeble stab hoping to impress but really amounts to splitting hairs, or to put it another way, hot air with no substance. The Common Sense Guy you should put yourself on top of the list of deluded people. They were telling the truth and revealing the type of person she was, a person that definitely would kill out of jealousy and revenge. Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? Im trying to understand exactly your reasoning asking me staying away from this site because of my insulting remarks! This article seems to have a great many errors and omissions, more by design, I fancy, than a need to tell the story objectively. Those bodies would have been manipulated by something around there. Dial-a-problem. I dont even know its Christmas.. Keep up your delusions. Another witness, Walter Traupman, who never testified, had told state troopers that on the day of Joanns disappearance, he saw a couple who looked like Joann and Andrew arguing about the paternity of a baby. Patricia, who moved from PA to North Carolina, made long distance calls from her home practically every day, except for the time period between December 11 and 16. But because there is no author of this page, I would like you to contact me on the Free Patricia Rorrer facebook page. It seems so, according to you. Youre so fixated with her guilt, youre unable to see other factors that show this case to be a disgraceful travesty. Quote if I had known I would get caught, I would never have brought you into this world. Pat to Nicole her daughter. There was also forensic evidence, obviously planted by them crooked cops, according to defenders. There is pendency of DNA investigation for Routier. Remember, killers have the advantage over investigators. I want to keep the tons of old jewelry but Im perplexed. There is a term in law called balance of probabilities, which basically means that guilt is assigned when there is a preponderance of evidence that would lead a rational person to conclude that the person did it. 6-10. Cops under pressure will lie to close a case. The article also notes that most inmates earn around 19 cent an hour at their jobs and must pay $5 each time they need medical attention or medicine. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. But hang on You ask that I show care with my wording and show all the tolerance in the world, and by that you presumably mean I should simply ignore those who villify her in the most disgraceful way, probably in the opinion that all readers of their comments will agree, and no one is going to take offence! Joanne and Alex didnt disappear until 12/15. They moved into her house in Salisbury County, staying together for about two years. Until next time, cheers. If there was more talk about finding this .22 mm gun then that would solve all of this speculation. The fact that there was a broken fingernail with skin attached to it found on her clothingand wasnt Patricias. She will be in jail for the rest of her life and rightly so. You know the answer to that, the same as I do, which is. She would also have no heart when it comes to children, not even her own. The fact that previous boyfriends noted her obsession with Andrew is very, very telling. Im sorry for the distress this awful business must have caused. She made an effort to look perfectly groomed even when she took out the trash, according to her mother, who appeared on Forensic Files. His defenders claimed that the confession was coerced, the video was grainy/unclear or doctored and the witness was confused and/or unreliable. because theres money to be made from the commercials added into their show. She was also accused of breaking into barns, stealing horses, and underfeeding the ones she owned. During Patricias hours-long turn in the witness chair, Michael McIntyre grilled her relentlessly. (Nope. This woman killed and is where she belongs! And NOBODY saw her at all? Stevie J Further to my previous comment, I should add the following. Prosecutor pounds away. I believe this woman murdered Joann and Alex. Patricia Rorrer: Under the Microscope. Shame on your for defending a vicious killer. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory. Where is Patricia Rorrer Now? - The Cinemaholic 1 talking about this. Justice is about uncovering the truth. Her diary certainly indicates some disturbed thinking. A newspaper account described Patricia as a soft-spoken, demure woman who had a sweet Southern accent and wore feminine clothes in court. There are innocent people in prison. I really never thought of it again.. Decades-old Lehigh Valley murder case back in national spotlight - WFMZ.com Had there been a switch? Andy did end up moving to Colorado with her and the last time I checked, they were still together. Charles Robert, the 3-month-old son she had with Gary Gabard, died of sudden infant death syndrome; Patricia found him blue in his crib. And the point the hair in her hand wasnt tested was because they didnt need it since they had the killer shame on everyone who went along with that. According to court papers from Patricia 2017 appeal, DNA on the cigarette butt found near the two bodies belonged to Appellant. (Prosecutor Michael McIntyre, however, told ForensicFilesNow.com that that the cigarette butt was never actually tested). Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. On January 11, 2021, Joanne didnt go missing until December 15, an entire week and a day later. The Innocence Project has declined to take her case. The real killer is Rorrer! After Joann Katrinak, the wife of Patricias former flame, turned up dead along with her infant son, prosecutors suspected Patricia. Why would somebody tell you, theyre going to fry me, if they didnt do it? Jarrett told Wrong Man. How so? Two problems, then: a failure to see your own position as you see others (failure to comprehend irony), and failure to understand the difference between fact and opinion. A few fries short of a Happy Meal, that one. Family members found Joanns tan Toyota sitting vacant in the parking lot of McCartys, a nearby bar. I guess the investigators in Pennsylvania managed a quick resolve to a huge case that had a nations eyes scrutinizing their every move! The victims vanished on December 15. Im more sure of Routiers guilt. The organization purports that if there were awards for distorted reporting, the Morning Callwould win high honors.. Look into it. ), And in another bombshell, Joanns good friend Karen Devine said Joann planned to leave Andrew after the holidays. Free Patricia Rorrer So, lets take your response one step at a time. Patricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. Im new to the case, but there seems to be a lot of reasonable doubt. But her reputation wasnt exactly sleek and shiny. Patricia Rorrer was convicted of both deaths in the mid-90's and is serving a life sentence. You, however, consider your ill-informed opinion superior to them not only that, you then go to great lengths to belittle them. The only thing that has changed since this case is the ability of people to access and proclaim crackpot ideas, conspiracies, and all the rest. Keep in mind that 34 hairs are in custody of the state police, so where are the other 4 hairs? Now retired, he declined ForensicFilesNow.coms invitation to spar directly with Patricia via a podcast. Your email address will not be published. Once you create your profile, you will be able to: Miami Herald Article on Bobby Kent's Murder - Forensic Files Now Rorrer is as guilty as OJ Simpson. Incriminating words. On Instagram, I found a post for a two-part Win at All Costs podcast featuring journalism professor Bill Mousheys interviews with Patricia Rorrer from prison in December 2019. And then there are documentaries (video and audio) which, by all accounts, stick to the facts and make a compelling case for her innocence. The prosecution alleged that Patricia called the Katrinaks house from a pay phone in Pennsylvania. Shes attracted the help of writer Tammy Mal (full name Tammy Malinowski OReilly), author of Convenient Suspect, a book about the case. Aside from the hair, there was almost zero forensic evidence. Prosecution leader McIntyre, when interviewed, laughingly dismissed him as a nut in an effort to trivialise Traupmans input. I would like to tell you that there is many errors in this article, that I would love to send to you the proof of each one. Ep 204 - Patricia Rorrer: Under the Microscope TV-MA | 52 MINS | 2020 Patty Rorrer is convicted of the kidnapping and murder of her ex-boyfriend's wife and infant son, but "Wrong Man" investigators discover that the case is not so clear cut. This woman was motivated by an obsession with a man who no longer wanted her. Ten months after Joann died he murdered another woman (who looks just like her) and her baby, as well. Plus, two men, her babys father and his friend, testified they saw Patricia at the line-dancing club the night of the homicide. SHAME ON THEM. How would an intruder find it? She is a tough one, Sheriff Gerald Hege would later tell the Morning Call in a June 29, 1997 interview. Stable situation. Rorrer v. Nicholas, Civil Action 19-cv-01398-GEKP - Casetext Thats my life.. Clifford Freeman, since you are already at the top of the list of deluded people not much room left for anyone with an oversized ego such as you apparently have!! Watch Wrong Man season 2, and then come back and make comment. The fact that shortly after Joanns funeral, Andy reconnected with an old friend, a woman who happened to live about 4 miles from where the bodies were found. Whether or not one believes said person has a motive, did investigators have an actual factual case or not?
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